Why an analyst should assess each newly created prediction market

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The Chicago candidacy, which was favored by the prediction markets (and gullible bettors like Ben Shannon), is the one that fared the worst.

As we have blogged here many times, not every prediction market is created equal. Some are bound to aggregate bits of known information. Some others (e.g., the Olympic city prediction markets) are not able to do that, because no good information is leaking out. The IOC is a close aristocratic group that does not leak out good information. Those who forgot that and bet the farm on Chicago are now licking their wounds. You need an information analyst to assess whether a particular prediction market is pertinent.

– BetFair&#8217-s event derivative prices:

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– InTrade&#8217-s event derivative prices:

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– HubDub&#8217-s event derivative prices:

Who will recieve the winning bid to host the 2016 Olympics?

Professor Thomas Rietz (Iowa Electronic Markets) was so wrong on the usefulness of prediction markets about the 2016 Summer Olympics in Chicago.

Chicago Olympic Market Might Have Value, Says Reitz (Chicago Tribune, April 17)
A credible source of information about Chicago&#8217-s chances of hosting the 2016 Olympics would have value, says columnist Bill Barnhart. Local real estate developers, hotel operators, employment agencies, vendors of products and services to major events and others have a direct stake in whether or not an Olympics is staged here. Politicians and civic leaders presumably would want to know whether the city&#8217-s bid has a chance, so that they wouldn&#8217-t throw good money after bad. An auction market centered on whether Chicago will win could provide that information, even if there were no huge payoff for hedgers or speculators, said finance professor THOMAS RIETZ at the University of Iowa, a board member of the popular Iowa Electronic Markets. The Iowa market limits wagers to $500 but has an enviable track record in picking the winners of national elections. &#8220-Our goal is to aggregate information, which is a different goal than being able to hedge the economic risk associated with something like this,&#8221- Rietz said. &#8220-I don&#8217-t think it&#8217-s an outlandish idea.&#8221-

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/yourmoney/chi-0704160447apr17,0,2547860.column?coll=chi-business-hed

Prof, you were 100% wrong.

Prediction markets on which country will host the Olympics have never worked.

BetFair&#8217-s event derivative prices (on the far right of the chart, you can see that the price went down to zero):

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InTrade&#8217-s event derivative prices (on the far right of the chart, you can see that the price went down to zero):

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– HubDub&#8217-s event derivative prices:

Who will recieve the winning bid to host the 2016 Olympics?

Chicago wont have the Olympics in 2016.

IOC

The Chicago candidacy, which was favored by the prediction markets (and bettors like Ben Shannon), is the one that fared the worst.

I TOLD YOU SO:

&#8220-Will Chicago get the Olympics? Dona€™t bet on it. Too risky.&#8220-

The prediction markets are not able to forecast which country will get the Olympics. The IOC is a close aristocratic group that does not leak information. Hence, it is not possible to aggregate information.

Once again, Ben Shannon made a very bad bet. He should read Midas Oracle more often &#8212-if he wants to avoid personal bankruptcy.

– Once again, we see that the P.R. agents of InTrade and BetFair (who both bragged about being able to predict Chicago) were overselling.

BetFair&#8217-s event derivative prices (on the far right of the chart, you can see that the price went down to zero):

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InTrade&#8217-s event derivative prices (on the far right of the chart, you can see that the price went down to zero):

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– HubDub&#8217-s event derivative prices:

Who will recieve the winning bid to host the 2016 Olympics?

Assessing the usefulness of enterprise prediction markets

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Do you need to have experience in running an enterprise prediction exchange in order to assess the pertinence of enterprise prediction markets?

Paul Hewitt:

Hi Jed…

As for qualifications, I have been making business decisions for almost 30 years. I am a chartered accountant and a business owner. Starting in university and continuing to this day, I have been researching information needs for corporate decision making. As Chris points out, I’m not a salesperson for any of the software developers. In fact, if I have a bias, it is to be slightly in favour of prediction markets. That said, I still haven’t seen any convincing evidence that they work as promised by ANY of the vendors.

As for whether I have ever run or administered a prediction market, the answer is no. Does that mean I am not qualified to critique the cases that have been published? Hardly. You don’t have to run a PM to know that it is flawed. Those that do, end up trying to justify minuscule “improvements” in the accuracy of predictions. They also fail to consider the consistency of the predictions. Without this, EPMs will never catch on. Sorry, but that is just plain common sense.

The pilot cases that have been reported are pretty poor examples of prediction market successes. In almost every case, the participants were (at least mostly) the same ones that were involved with internal forecasting. The HP markets, yes, the Holy Grail of all prediction markets, merely showed that prediction markets are good at aggregating the information already aggregated by the company forecasters! They showed that PMs are only slightly better than other traditional methods – and mainly because of the bias reduction. Being slightly better is not good enough in the corporate world.

I think I bring a healthy skepticism to the assessment of prediction markets. I truly want to believe, but I need to be convinced. I am no evangelist, and there is no place for that in scientific research. Rather than condemn me for not administering a PM, why not address the real issues that arise from my analyses?

Paul Hewitt&#8217-s blog

Previously: The truth about CrowdClarity’s extraordinary predictive power (which impresses Jed Christiansen so much)

The truth about CrowdClaritys extraordinary predictive power (which impresses Jed Christiansen so much)

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Paul Hewitt:

At first blush, it appears that we finally have a bona fide prediction market success! If we&#8217-re going to celebrate, I&#8217-d suggest Prosecco, not Champagne, however.

There are a number of reasons to be cautious. These represent only a couple of markets. We don&#8217-t know why Urban Science people appear to be so adept at forecasting GM sales in turbulent times. There is no information on the CrowdClarity web site to indicate why the markets were successful nor how their mechanism might have played a role in the PM accuracy. I&#8217-m guessing that it would have been really easy to beat GM&#8217-s forecasts in November, as they would likely have been even more biased than usual, mainly for political reasons. I&#8217-m not sure how Edmunds.com&#8217-s may have been biased or why their predictions were not accurate. Maybe they are not so good at predicting unless the market is fairly stable.

The CrowdClarity web site boasts that a few days after the markets were opened, the predictions were fairly close to the eventual outcome. This is a good thing, but, at this point it is not useful. No one knew, at that time, that those early predictions would turn out to be reasonably accurate. As a result, no one would have relied upon these early predictions to make decisions.

I&#8217-m even more skeptical of the company&#8217-s contention that markets can be operated with as few as 13 participants. Here we go again, trying to fake diversity.

It is interesting that a prediction market comprised of participants outside of the subject company did generate more accurate predictions than GM insiders (biased) and Edmunds.com (experts). The question that needs to be answered is why. Clearly, Urban Science people did have access to better information, but why?

Unless we know why the prediction markets were successful at CrowdClarity, it is hard to get excited. There are too many examples of prediction markets that are not significantly better than traditional forecasting methods. This one could be a fluke.

I&#8217-ll have more to say, soon, when I write about the prediction markets that were run at General Mills. There the authors of the study found that prediction markets were no better than the company internal forecasting process.

Paul Hewitt&#8217-s analysis is more interesting than Jed Christiansen&#8217-s naive take.

Paul Hewitt&#8217-s blog

Next: Assessing the usefulness of enterprise prediction markets

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Finally, a positive corporate prediction market case study… -well, according to Jed Christiansen

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Jed Christiansen:

To recap, the prediction market beat the official GM forecast (made at the beginning of the month) easily, which isn’t hugely surprising considering the myopic nature of internal forecasting. But the prediction market also beat the Edmunds.com forecast. This is particularly interesting, as Edmunds would have had the opportunity to review almost the entire month’s news and data before making their forecast at the end of the month. […]

Assume that even with three weeks’ early warning Chevrolet was only able to save 10% of that gap, it’s still $80million in savings. Even if a corporate prediction market for a giant company like GM cost $200,000 a year, that would still be a return on investment of 40,000 %. And again, that’s in the Chevrolet division alone. […]

Make up your own mind by reading the whole piece.

Next: The truth about CrowdClarity’s extraordinary predictive power (which impresses Jed Christiansen so much)

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What is the liquidity on InTrades financial prediction markets?

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My dear honorable Carlos Graterol,

I acknowledge you are a little InTrade fanboy, and that flies OK in my book. You say there are 3,000 daily transactions on the daily DJIA prediction markets. (It was much higher than that before the CFTC fined InTrade.) While I reckon that this liquidity is enough to generate trustworthy predictions, it is very small compared to the liquidity of the financial markets or BetFair&#8217-s liquidity. For your information, BetFair handles more transactions than the London Stock Exchange. InTrade&#8217-s liquidity is small compared to BetFair&#8217-s, and is certainly too small to generate profitability. That&#8217-s what counts.

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Do businesses need enterprise prediction markets?

Competitive advantage can be obtained either by differentiation or by low cost. Enterprise prediction markets certainly don&#8217-t foster the innovation process, and they are surely not the cheapest forecasting tool. EPMs require special software, the hiring of consultant(s), the participation of all, and a budget for the prizes. EPMs are costly, and they take time to deliver. As of today, I can&#8217-t see why any sane CEO should be implementing EPMs as a decision-making support. At the contrary, I would say that any sane CEO should fire any employee who tried to sneak in internal prediction markets, and should dismember any existing corporate prediction exchange. Right now.

It has been suggested that EPMs have helped Best Buy getting it right on the ‘HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray’ issue. It&#8217-s a boatload of bullsh*t. I know a lot about technology intelligence. It should be done by a smart and curious operator. There is no need of enterprise prediction markets to do this task. The tools you need consist of a bunch of IT news aggregators and a good search engine. Consider this:

The Inevitable Move Of iTunes To The Cloud

In the &#8216-cloud&#8217- piece above, there are facts and there are speculations. You&#8217-ve got much more technology intelligence reading the &#8216-cloud&#8217- piece above than you would get from a crude, plain and simple prediction market. Gimme a break with EPMs. Make no sense at all.

Contrast EPMs (which are costly) with public prediction markets (a la InTrade or BetFair), where probabilistic predictions are offered for free. That makes all the difference for the reason that the added accuracy brought by prediction markets is very small. Market-generated odds are handed out for free to journalists &#8212-still, few of them take the bait. The market-powered crystal ball is worth peanuts.

The reason CEOs are paid millions is that only a small percent of the population of business administration managers has the ability to cut through the non-sense and the balls to cut the cost of the non-sense. It is a rare skill. I am calling on CEOs to end EPMs. Right now.

Can we really assess InTrades *very short* prediction market on Van Jones?

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Carlos Graterol has a partial analysis on the Van Jones prediction market at InTrade. Basically, Carlos Graterol (an InTrade fanboy) says that InTrade should be credited for the accurate prediction.

  1. Carlos Graterol should publish what the politicians and editorialists were saying last week (the resignation calls were numerous)-
  2. The InTrade prediction market should have been created much, much earlier &#8212-when Glenn Beck started his &#8216-anti-czars&#8217- guerrilla (at the beginning of August 2009).

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