What is the future of InTrade?
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We would need to see note 12 to understand what happened to the Share Premium account. It appears that the December 31, 2007 balance of the P &- L Account was applied against the Share Premium account. However, at September 30, 2008, the Share Premium is 1,063,614 higher than it should be (6,651,502 – 5,715,540 = 935,962 vs. 1,999,576). Note 12 might explain why.
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There might be a slight discrepancy between the accounts and the balance sheet.
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There might be a slight discrepancy between the accounts and the balance sheet. If you, too, spot it, then publish a comment just below, and we will share our thoughts. (Please, do not publish any negative comment that can be legally reprehensible.)
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– Nate Silver: 0.6032
– InTrade: 0.3699
InTrade looks much better than Nate Silver on the Oscars 2009.
Waiting for the HubDub numbers, now. Nigel, are you napping or what?
The boom of public and private prediction markets started after the 2004 US elections. InTrade claimed to have nailed “-all 50 states”-. InTrade’-s performance in the 2008 US elections was less stellar, and in line with polls. Hence, the bust we are in.
If true, the good performance of HubDub in the Oscars 2009 forecasting race could lead to a small boom. We will see. We should first analyze the HubDub data. Nigel, care to share?
It is only today (February 19) that the New York Times emerges out of hibernation and headlines:
– Kansas Governor Seen as Top Choice in Health Post. —- Gov. Kathleen Sebelius is emerging as President Obama’s top choice for secretary of health and human services.
Now, look at the red line in the HubDub chart below: the prediction markets nailed her since the beginning of February 2009.
Of course, a scientific comparison would have scrutinized more closely than I did all the news articles from the New York Times (and from other mass media). That’-s what we are going to do with the “-Open Institute Of Prediction Markets“-. To this end, I will set up a portable and distributed “-Prediction Markets Consortium”- in the coming days. Then, I will try to anchor it in an institution of higher education, and, after that, I will try to gather support from think tanks and foundations. Not an easy task, but I know now that I can count on many prediction market people and companies. It should be an industry endeavor —-and it should deliver results, in the end (demonstrating the social utility of the prediction markets by documenting velocity, and, from there, following a logical thread which I will talk you about later on).
PS: About velocity…- Remember that we are about the prediction markets versus the mass media (The New York Times, The Times of London, NBC News, BBC News, etc.) —-as opposed to the vertical media (Politico.com, Nate Silver’-s blog, PoliticalBetting.com, etc.). The distinction is very important to keep in mind.
UPDATE: The only stuff I can find about Sebelius for HHS is that February 9 piece from the Associated Press (which didn’-t get a mass audience since it was not-republished in the New York Times or other mass media), saying that she was “-near the top”- for the job. Well, “-near the top”- is not like saying she was “-on top”-.
UPDATE #2: The Sebelius story is picking steam in the mass media. See Nate Silver’-s take.
ADDENDUM: Andrew Gelman tells me that he thinks that “-the Associated Press is a mass medium. It is a cooperative organized by a bunch of newspapers.”- I think that the AP news articles do indeed reach a big audience when they are re-published or cited in the mass media. But in the Sebelius case above, it was not the case.
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Previously: The truth about prediction markets
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Who will be the next nominee of the HHS, now that Daschle has withdrawn from consideration?
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No HHS contract on InTrade, BetFair or NewsFutures.
Political prediction markets react (with a small delay) to political polls —-just like the political experts and the mass media do, too. Hence, in order to discover their true social utility, the prediction markets (which are tools of intelligence) should not be compared to the polls (which are just facts) but to the similar meta intelligence mechanisms (the averaged probabilistic predictions from a large panel of experts, or the averaged probabilistic predictions from the political reporters in the mass media, or else). My bet is that, in complicated situations (such as the 2008 Democratic primary), the prediction markets beat the mass media (in terms of velocity) —-even though the prediction markets are not omniscient and not completely objective (but who is?).
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You might remember the research article that I have blogged about:
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Learning in Investment Decisions: Evidence from Prediction Markets and Polls – (PDF file) – David S. Lee and Enrico Moretti – 2008-12-XX
In this paper, we explore how polls and prediction markets interact in the context of the 2008 U.S. Presidential election. We begin by presenting some evidence on the relative predictive power of polls and prediction markers. If almost all of the information that is relevant for predicting electoral outcomes is not captured in polling, then there is little reason to believe that prediction market prices should co-move with contemporaneous polling. If, at the other extreme, there is no useful information beyond what is already summarized by the current polls, then market prices should react to new polling information in a particular way. Using both a random walk and a simple autoregressive model, we find that the latter view appears more consistent with the data. Rather than anticipating significant changes in voter sentiment, the market price appears to be reacting to the release of the polling information.
We then outline and test a more formal model of investor learning. In the model, investors have a prior on the probability of victory of each candidate, and in each period they update this probability after receiving a noisy signal in the form of a poll. This Bayesian model indicates that the market price should be a function of the prior and each of the available signals, with weights reflecting their relative precision. It also indicates that more precise polls (i.e. polls with larger sample size) and earlier polls should have more effect on market prices, everything else constant. The empirical evidence is generally, although not completely, supportive of the predictions of the Bayesian model.
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You might also have watched Emile Servan-Schreiber’-s videos. Emile is a smart man, and those videos are truly instructive.
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Lance Fortnow gives a good insight about the relationship between polls and prediction markets (see his last paragraph).
Yesterday the Electoral College delegates voted, 365 for Barack Obama and 173 for John McCain. How did the markets do?
To compare, here is my map the night before the election and the final results. The leaning category had Obama at 364. The markets leaned the wrong way for Missouri and Indiana, their 11 electoral votes canceling each other out. The extra vote for Obama came from a quirk in Nebraska that the Intrade markets didn’-t cover: Nebraska splits their votes based on congressional delegations, one of which went to Obama.
Indiana and Missouri were the most likely Republican and Democratic states to switch sides according to the markets, which mean the markets did very well this year again. Had every state leaned the right way (again), one would wonder if the probabilities in each state had any meaning beyond being above or below 50%.
Many argue the markets just followed the predictions based on polls like Nate Silver’-s fivethirtyeight.com. True to a point, Silver did amazingly well and the markets smartly trusted him. But the markets also did very well in 2004 without Silver. [Chris Masse’s remark: In 2004, Electoral-Vote.com (another poll aggregator) was all the rage.] One can aggregate polls and other information using hours upon hours of analysis or one can just trust the markets to get essentially equally good results with little effort.
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The polls are facts. Prediction markets are meta to facts. Prediction markets are intelligence tools. Let’-s compare them with similar intelligence tools.
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Lance Fortnow’-s post attracted an interesting comment from one of his readers:
to provide an exciting collection of political and other prediction markets.
These markets are as much a “-prediction”- tool as a wind vane or outdoor thermometer are. They moved up and down according to the daily trends, with very little insight of the longer place phenomena underlying them.
When the weather was hot (Palin’-s nomination announcement) the market swinged widely towards McCain, while ignoring the cold front on the way here (the economic recession + Palin inexperience).
The value of weather forecast is in telling us things we didn’-t know. We don’-t need to trade securities to believe that if McCain is closing on the polls then his chances of wining are higher (duh!), which is what the markets did. We need sophisticated prediction mechanisms to tell us how the worsening economic conditions, the war in Iraq and Palin ineptitude (which in pre-Couric days wasn’-t as well established) will impact this election, today poll’-s be damned.
Looking at the actions by the republican teams, who were trying to read past the daily trend all the way to November 4th, it is clear that they thought all along they were losing by a fair margin. Because of this is they choose moderate, maverick McCain, went for the Palin hail mary fumble^H^H^H^H^H pass and the put-the-campaign-on-hold move.
A full two weeks before the election the McCain team concluded the election was unwinnable, while the electoral college market was still giving 25-35% odds to McCain.
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As highlighted in bold, the commenter says two things:
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The emergence of the social utility of the prediction markets will come more clearly to people once we:
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New York Times:
Revelation Rocks Bank in Ireland
By MATTHEW SALTMARSH
Published: December 19, 2008
A major Irish bank was shaken Friday by the revelation of 87 million euros, or $125 million, in undisclosed personal loans to the bank’s chairman — prompting his resignation as well as that of the bank’s chief executive. Sean FitzPatrick, chairman of Anglo Irish Bank, announced his resignation late Thursday after regulators discovered that he had hidden the personal loans from shareholders. The bank’s chief executive, David Drumm, also resigned. The scandal sent the shares in the bank plummeting […]
A statement Friday from the regulator, the Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland, said it became aware this year of “matters surrounding loans from Anglo Irish Bank to Sean FitzPatrick.”
“While it does not appear that anything illegal took place in relation to these loans, the financial regulator was of the view that the practices surrounding these loans were not appropriate,” the statement said.
Analysts said the scandal could affect the pace of the government’s support for the banking sector. […]
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